tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3138728502354978457.post2226668130238815877..comments2013-04-28T14:44:48.079+02:00Comments on JEREMY DUNS: How Nate Thayer plagiarizesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3138728502354978457.post-12772412618981990792013-03-19T16:30:48.969+01:002013-03-19T16:30:48.969+01:00Good for you, Jeremy. Thayer deserved to be called...Good for you, Jeremy. Thayer deserved to be called out and I'm glad you took him to task. We don't need people like him in our profession -- especially a guy that acts like he's "above it all" when he's actually the lowest form of "journalistic" scum one could imagine.Kenny Powershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14389273571625841232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3138728502354978457.post-89084643385323957152013-03-15T19:38:45.709+01:002013-03-15T19:38:45.709+01:00Another well written piece, I think. It seems tha...Another well written piece, I think. It seems that some of the critics of your accusation of plagiarism may have just been too lazy to do the work themselves and disprove your point. Too bad. It would be an interesting discussion if someone else did a close reading of the articles in question and tried to argue that plagiarism is too strong a word.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18420829329716982366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3138728502354978457.post-83680217548044172722013-03-15T09:14:01.274+01:002013-03-15T09:14:01.274+01:00Hello, salamankar, sorry you don't like the on...Hello, salamankar, sorry you don't like the one-paragraph sentence thing.<br /><br />I find it quite effective.<br /><br />As long as it's not over-used, that is.<br /><br />I get the feeling you think you're letting me in on a little secret I don't know about myself. Here's one for you: bothering to sign in to make a childish crack at my prose style in the article without making a single concrete reference to the content doesn't reflect too well on you, either. I'm rarely so bored by something I feel the need to comment on it!<br /><br />It's not the most elegant piece I've ever written, I readily admit - perhaps if I took enough time about it I could phrase it to your satisfaction, although ironically I find your own prose style officiously pompous ('One only hopes', 'I applaud your diligence'). But putting my boring and annoying prose style to one side for a moment, and focusing on the content of what I've written (imagine!), I hope you can see that, irritating as it is, what I've written is all true.<br /><br />Nate Thayer is a plagiarist.<br /><br />Jeremy Dunshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14442728222534667107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3138728502354978457.post-24761357411728935802013-03-15T01:12:31.699+01:002013-03-15T01:12:31.699+01:00In all this band-wagoning against one man's re...In all this band-wagoning against one man's reputation, one feels someone should point out that Jeremy Duns seems incapable of putting together an articulate accusation that doesn't resort to stylistic techniques more closely associated with uninspiring GCSE English candidates.<br /><br />Writing a sentence all by itself like this makes you sound like a dick.<br /><br />One only hopes the myriad of great spy novels Mr. Duns has to his name doesn't also rely on such boring and self-righteous stylistic quirks. I applaud your diligence, but your delivery is boring – annoying even.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3138728502354978457.post-71812366432047239752013-03-11T17:44:55.251+01:002013-03-11T17:44:55.251+01:00It strikes me that one of the root causes here is ...It strikes me that one of the root causes here is a severe lack of policy and oversight at media organizations about what is/isn't acceptable re: plagiarism and fabrication. The basic assumption is that everyone understands what plagiarism is, and editors need to "trust" reporters to avoid it. Yet here's Nate Thayer (or Jonah Lehrer or...) doing something most of us would consider plagiarism and still believing he's not doing anything wrong. It seems like he's rationalized plagiarism by defining it creatively -- like the Bush administration with torture.<br /><br />Because reporters are allegedly serving the public good, they're seen as more trustworthy (at least by editors) than bankers or lawyers or professionals in other industries. But in any industry, if you leave ethical decisions up to the professionals' consciences, they will come up with creative ways to justify abuses. We can't just rely on consensus about ethical practice; media organizations need to have clear, transparent guidelines about what plagiarism and fabrication are, so we don't have people like Thayer coming back and saying "but I've always done it this way and no one complained."Omniclasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16815161516377375619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3138728502354978457.post-9265177931579167002013-03-11T09:58:48.254+01:002013-03-11T09:58:48.254+01:00perhaps we need a new word for the subtler tricks,...perhaps we need a new word for the subtler tricks, (A subset of plagiarism, let's not avoid that word) When someone abuses a quote - not showing the omission for example - this can be a "Hari".<br /><br />There maybe something one can call a "Thayer" but it strikes me that those seeking fame and fortune by these methods might appreiciate the recognition..? offpat @smile_of_decadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05189834112799669520noreply@blogger.com